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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 7, 2017 20:46:22 GMT -5
I suggest that the ABCDE ranking of fighter be removed as since it has been proved that tapopology ranking is a fan based ranked system and that the ranking are implemented to keep guys like (jordan mein and other fighters) from achieving a belt see reference manmma.proboards.com/thread/10444/new-idea-points?page=3&scrollTo=106642 this would give every fighter equal oppourtuinty to win the belt and not that of anderson silva 16 times .. thoughts? everyone should agree rather than the continous of a site designed for your fighter not to win a belt..
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 7, 2017 21:00:29 GMT -5
for sandmento expect you to come on upgrade guys that'll never become champion is a waste of everybody time
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Aug 7, 2017 23:40:33 GMT -5
I support cannon in this topic. I dont like the abcd thing.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 7, 2017 23:58:05 GMT -5
Suggesting the removal of ABCD is not suggesting a fix to a problem.
As is, the "problem" you are fixing is one that is not a problem. Like, literally even if every single member of this site votes to abolish ABCD, I am not doing it. It's straight up not happening. I am not putting Fedor on the same footing as Ryan Fucking Jimmo. It will ruin the site for me, I will stop simming it, and the site will die.
If you do not think Tapology is a good source of "best of all time" rankings, then suggest an alternative. So far, the alternative is I make them myself.
But the idea of making everyone have a universal cap is a non-starter. I am literally not, and never, doing that.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:02:03 GMT -5
than why run a fantasy site if itll ruin it if ur fighter anderson silva isn't the best? or why suggest me to do a new topic when u know u wont do it if the league votes against it cus anderson wont be the best.. thought this was manmma not real life hence ur training camp speeches of a paticular fighter will get better if they train this. so no regular cant get better than anderson is kind of a hypocritical thing to do since its manmma not ufc
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 8, 2017 0:14:11 GMT -5
It would help if you had even the slightest idea what you were taking about here.
1) Anderson is not the best. Do you see his face on the Champion banner? 2) The alpha-caps don't doom fighters, they simply give legends an advantage. 3) If you upgrade well, ratings do not matter (JJ is not capped) 4) I have never said the site is pure fantasy. I have never said CM Punk, nor CHad Vivian could be ManMMA champion. The fantasy of the site has been, and always will be, a "best of all time, vs. best of all time." type fantasy. So the LEGENDS of the past vs. the LEGENDS of the present. And so on. A clashing of eras. It is not a place for people to draft their friends and make over the site. Never has been, never will be.
What I have learned in the past 6 years more than anything is the more you give people, the more they expect. On all of our hockey sites, we have given people absolutely no options about who could be drafted. Hell, people start with pre-established teams. Here, I let people choose anyone, from any time, and the site slowly became a joke. And so here we are. And now you (and GAP apparently) are upset because Bob Sapp has a lower cap than someone like Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko, or GSP.
If you want a site where guys like Paul Sass and Manny Tapia are champions, as I said, start your own site. ManMMA will never, and has never, been the place for that.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:25:49 GMT -5
It would help if you had even the slightest idea what you were taking about here. 1) Anderson is not the best. Do you see his face on the Champion banner? 2) The alpha-caps don't doom fighters, they simply give legends an advantage. 3) If you upgrade well, ratings do not matter (JJ is not capped) 4) I have never said the site is pure fantasy. I have never said CM Punk, nor CHad Vivian could be ManMMA champion. The fantasy of the site has been, and always will be, a "best of all time, vs. best of all time." type fantasy. So the LEGENDS of the past vs. the LEGENDS of the present. And so on. A clashing of eras. It is not a place for people to draft their friends and make over the site. Never has been, never will be. What I have learned in the past 6 years more than anything is the more you give people, the more they expect. On all of our hockey sites, we have given people absolutely no options about who could be drafted. Hell, people start with pre-established teams. Here, I let people choose anyone, from any time, and the site slowly became a joke. And so here we are. And now you (and GAP apparently) are upset because Bob Sapp has a lower cap than someone like Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko, or GSP. If you want a site where guys like Paul Sass and Manny Tapia are champions, as I said, start your own site. ManMMA will never, and has never, been the place for that. 1 you have no problem with the females being capped at 79% with an additional point to real life champs 2 there are guidelines of whom you can draft but what the point into drafting a d or non ranked fighter whos a mid tier filler card that will never be a champ? hence the prupose male cap % with an additional point to real life champs so everyone on a level playing field 3 no point in even using my point on sam stout or rest of my team is there like how the fuck r they going to beat an a ranked fighter and no its not "how i upgrade " as your obviously making that clear as not wanting ryan jimmo on the same footing as fedor..
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:31:27 GMT -5
also anderson has most earned belts also if you weren't to add most consecutive title defences and meade it to just most defence im sure anderson would stack up there
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 8, 2017 0:40:26 GMT -5
2 there are guidelines of whom you can draft but what the point into drafting a d or non ranked fighter whos a mid tier filler card that will never be a champ? hence the prupose male cap % with an additional point to real life champs so everyone You are not listening. IF YOU UPGRADE PROPERLY, ANYONE CAN BE CHAMPION. (i.e. Joanna Jedrzejczyk). Similarly, if you upgrade an 85 IMPROPERLY, they will be mid-tier fighters (i.e. the worst-kept secret on this site is Fedor's overall is overclocked to nearly 87, and has been for half of this site's life. He is not well-upgraded, so he cannot beat 80-overall fighters). The playing field is level. Everything about our site is proof of that, and has been for the past 6 real life years. Look at the champion banner. Guillard, Le, Carmouche - none of these people are A-ranked fighters. 3 no point in even using my point on sam stout or rest of my team is there like how the fuck r they going to beat an a ranked fighter and no its not "how i upgrade " as your obviously making that clear as not wanting ryan jimmo on the same footing as fedor.. You are right. There is no point in upgrading any of your fighters. You ignore all of my upgrading advice, so any upgrade you put into Stout (or anyone for that matter) is a waste. If you upgrade well, Stout could be a champion. Not to mention, the fact that YOUR Melvin Guillard (81-cap) is on the Champion banner right now contradicts this entire point, so I don't even know what you are on about here.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:48:11 GMT -5
obviously that doesn't matter none of that matters because if they get retooled and upgraded properly guillard wouldn't be on the same footing as that of an a so its still a rigged system too keep fighters down a notch to please the anderson silva & fedor gods
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:52:12 GMT -5
obvioulsy like u i dont play with the sim system daily i dled it once and realized no one ever came close to beating anderson ever somebody traded all thier pic to acquire anderson than later down the line implements a ranking system to establish his dominance even if it benefits only himself and not the league entirely
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 8, 2017 0:52:42 GMT -5
obviously that doesn't matter none of that matters because if they get retooled and upgraded properly guillard wouldn't be on the same footing as that of an a so its still a rigged system too keep fighters down a notch to please the anderson silva & fedor gods Melvin has beaten A's, so this entire comment is moot.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 8, 2017 0:56:18 GMT -5
obvioulsy like u i dont play with the sim system daily i dled it once and realized no one ever came close to beating anderson ever somebody traded all thier pic to acquire anderson than later down the line implements a ranking system to establish his dominance even if it benefits only himself and not the league entirely When I made the league, I levelled the ratings, so guys like Anderson didn't have as much of an advantage over guys as he did in the default program. Furthermore, I don't know why you keep using Anderson as your example. He is far from unbeatable. He has lost several times to people below his overall. So again, every time you mention him, you further prove my point. Also, the trade you are talking about was me making a fair trade for Anderson before I simmed a single fight, then 4 real life years later, adding a cap change because there were so many legit legends on the free agent list.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2017 0:58:15 GMT -5
obvioulsy like u i dont play with the sim system daily i dled it once and realized no one ever came close to beating anderson ever somebody traded all thier pic to acquire anderson than later down the line implements a ranking system to establish his dominance even if it benefits only himself and not the league entirely When I made the league, I levelled the ratings, so guys like Anderson didn't have as much of an advantage over guys as he did in the default program. Furthermore, I don't know why you keep using Anderson as your example. He is far from unbeatable. He has lost several times to people below his overall. So again, every time you mention him, you further prove my point. well the cap system in the female division works wonders so it should be implemented with the men as well, like i said benefit the league over 1 person
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 8, 2017 1:00:20 GMT -5
well the cap system in the female division works wonders so it should be implemented with the men as well, like i said benefit the league over 1 person You have not singled out a single person that benefits more than others from this suggestion. You just think it hurts you, for reasons you have not outlined at all.
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