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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Oct 26, 2018 18:04:54 GMT -5
and im talking about the letter grade rankings where julie kedzie should be an f to rousey a Fair enough... No one else was. lol 😜 But if you do wanna get into that, I'd give Rousey a mid-low B, at best... only because of her win streak due to opponents going too aggro on her to start fights... Or Ronda cheated. 😉 lol Rousey was a one trick pony that was finally exploited though. Sort of the same with Carano too... She only started getting decent on the ground just before she retired. Both were deadly at one thing though... No argument there. Kedzie would likely be a mid-high C. Her only championship came @ Jackson, granted, but she was always at forefront of women's MMA right from the start. The only real true "A's" in women's MMA for our purposes are really Nakai & Tate and maybe JJ & Holm... But even the latter two have their cracks. It's still too early in the women's MMA evolution to draw a definitive line. a mid low b eh for 1st womans champ hllo of famer and 9 defences who also beat zigano in 18 seconds i say she higher than an a unlike kedzie and carano |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 26, 2018 18:23:38 GMT -5
And this is why we don't have women letter-grades. If you guys find a decent, third-party ranked list of the best female pound for pound fighters of all time, we can start looking at it. The only one I found consisted of 3 fan voters. The one we originally used for men had 200 voters.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 26, 2018 19:54:57 GMT -5
Fair enough... No one else was. lol 😜 But if you do wanna get into that, I'd give Rousey a mid-low B, at best... only because of her win streak due to opponents going too aggro on her to start fights... Or Ronda cheated. 😉 lol Rousey was a one trick pony that was finally exploited though. Sort of the same with Carano too... She only started getting decent on the ground just before she retired. Both were deadly at one thing though... No argument there. Kedzie would likely be a mid-high C. Her only championship came @ Jackson, granted, but she was always at forefront of women's MMA right from the start. The only real true "A's" in women's MMA for our purposes are really Nakai & Tate and maybe JJ & Holm... But even the latter two have their cracks. It's still too early in the women's MMA evolution to draw a definitive line. a mid low b eh for 1st womans champ hllo of famer and 9 defences who also beat zigano in 18 seconds i say she higher than an a unlike kedzie and carano You're entitled to your opinion man. I never had much use, like or respect for Rousey in her MMA career at all. Hard to respect someone who cheats to win or a champion that was just handed a belt and didn't earn it or win it. I would've had a lot more respect for her if she'd actually fought to win that UFC title the first time and hadn't ducked Cyborg, cuz she knew she'd get completely ruined. Just ended up being Holm that ruined her. lol But she has her place in women's MMA history, no question there... Doesn't mean I have to like or respect her though either. ☺ |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Oct 27, 2018 16:14:47 GMT -5
And this is why we don't have women letter-grades. If you guys find a decent, third-party ranked list of the best female pound for pound fighters of all time, we can start looking at it. The only one I found consisted of 3 fan voters. The one we originally used for men had 200 voters. probably over 200 since its a popularity contest |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 27, 2018 18:06:39 GMT -5
More voters then actual UFC rankings. Those are determined by like, 20 people?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 27, 2018 18:08:46 GMT -5
And this is why we don't have women letter-grades. If you guys find a decent, third-party ranked list of the best female pound for pound fighters of all time, we can start looking at it. The only one I found consisted of 3 fan voters. The one we originally used for men had 200 voters. probably over 200 since its a popularity contest So is the men's, to a point, but even our consensus isn't perfect.. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Oct 28, 2018 17:54:27 GMT -5
probably over 200 since its a popularity contest So is the men's, to a point, but even our consensus isn't perfect.. lol obviously your consesus doesnt matter based on your roster and claiming rousey to be a b falling into The Sandmen trap of we cant letter grade woman "because" and having carano n zingano be the best when they dont deserve to be |
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!