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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 15, 2015 16:24:28 GMT -5
Do the last place teams feel they need help? I am at the bottom half of the league, but I don't feel like I need help, I eel like I need to stop being lazy and do more if I want my team to do more. You have a point here darlin', but overall, not everyone's "lazy", as it were... we all have fighters we've been lazy with... but the bottom teams need a boost. Do the last place teams feel they need help? I am at the bottom half of the league, but I don't feel like I need help, I eel like I need to stop being lazy and do more if I want my team to do more. i been last place lots times. i didn have no problems cause it was my fault fo rtradin good guys and it don matter to me if im last i just come back better next year like a warrior. You'll do anything and believe anything The Sandmen tells you, won't you? Sad. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 17:53:45 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, you are not being productive. There are now a total of 5 suggestions or variants of suggestions out there. Talk about the suggestions, not other members please and thank you.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Mar 15, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -5
Phx always finishes last so the only that stand to benefit most by this is him, I like the no Fighters going on FID for last two team also may i suggest that each team get 2 fighter per weight class 2 protect from fid to save them for grand prix,for example i have 3 lw i save 2 from fid the required number i need for grandpriwhich is 1 and injury replacement
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 19:42:52 GMT -5
also may i suggest that each team get 2 fighter per weight class 2 protect from fid to save them for grand prix,for example i have 3 lw i save 2 from fid the required number i need for grandpriwhich is 1 and injury replacement This is a different debate/discussion entirely, so let's hold off on that one. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 15, 2015 20:44:08 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, you are not being productive. There are now a total of 5 suggestions or variants of suggestions out there. Talk about the suggestions, not other members please and thank you. You say that like your BS post was productive and on point with what was being suggested...  puh-lease... lol You too pal... you too. Phx always finishes last so the only that stand to benefit most by this is him Actually, you're wrong... if you want to be accurate, I finish 2nd last most often, not dead last... so what you're suggesting about me is inaccurate. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 21:02:01 GMT -5
I don't give a shit about any of this, and am perfectly happy with what we have. If you want a change, discuss suggestions productively. OTherwise, you are just shooting yourself in the foot and nothing will be discussed. And even now, about a day later, you STILL have not discussed or even acknowledged any other suggestion other than your own - the one that IS a problem for people. So again, instead of creating problems with every member on the damned site, focus on the problem you think we have, and how to fix it. If you keep babbling about useless crap here, I'll just close the damned thread and we can keep the status quo. Everyone is trying here but you. And you are the one who wants the change. Also, I LOVE how Ferocity and Lord Byron's Conquistadors said the same thing. One you agreed with ("You have a point here darlin'") , the other you turned cunty on ("You'll do anything and believe anything The Sandmen tells you, won't you? Sad.") THAT is hilarious and sad. And yet another reason you should stick to the actual "problem" you are suggesting we solve. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 21:08:40 GMT -5
I was going to post a post here outlining each of the proposed suggestions, then realized - I don't give a shit and have no interest in wasting my time summarizing your own information for you. If you guys want change, it's your job to stay on track, evaluate the suggestions, fine one that works best, and get the league on board with it. The floor is yours, kids.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 15, 2015 21:14:30 GMT -5
I don't give a shit about any of this, and am perfectly happy with what we have. If you want a change, discuss suggestions productively. OTherwise, you are just shooting yourself in the foot and nothing will be discussed. And even now, about a day later, you STILL have not discussed or even acknowledged any other suggestion other than your own - the one that IS a problem for people. So again, instead of creating problems with every member on the damned site, focus on the problem you think we have, and how to fix it. If you keep babbling about useless crap here, I'll just close the damned thread and we can keep the status quo. Everyone is trying here but you. And you are the one who wants the change. Also, I LOVE how Ferocity and Lord Byron's Conquistadors said the same thing. One you agreed with ("You have a point here darlin'") , the other you turned cunty on ("You'll do anything and believe anything The Sandmen tells you, won't you? Sad.") THAT is hilarious and sad. And yet another reason you should stick to the actual "problem" you are suggesting we solve. What's sad is that you continue deflecting by bringing up other things of no relevance... that's what's sad. It's also sad that you don't give a shit... stands to reason though, and just accents my point that unless you think of it yourself, it's then a bad idea, but you implement any hair brained idea you come up with, whether it's good or bad for.the site. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 21:26:04 GMT -5
lol Sooo, I guess we can close this suggestion since NO ONE CARES TO TALK ABOUT THE SUGGESTION (other than me, and I don't think the change is necessary).
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Mar 15, 2015 21:28:08 GMT -5
lol Sooo, I guess we can close this suggestion since NO ONE CARES TO TALK ABOUT THE SUGGESTION (other than me, and I don't think the change is necessary). there me with the last 2 team get fid exemption and 2 person exption per class for grandprix suggestion i could open in a new topic |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 15, 2015 23:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Mar 16, 2015 7:20:59 GMT -5
Fid exemption doesn't seem to work. Because what if trimming the fat is what a team needs to get better? I think Phoenix's idea is fine... But my idea I feel would be the best since nobody would get points right away... You would have to work for it. But overall if you work hard you could really boost your team up.. Making your team a bigger threat.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 16, 2015 11:24:27 GMT -5
lol Sooo, I guess we can close this suggestion since NO ONE CARES TO TALK ABOUT THE SUGGESTION (other than me, and I don't think the change is necessary). You don't think any changes are ever necessary unless you think of them yourself, the fact is that when it's the same teams at the bottom nearly all the time, that IS a problem. Even if the 1st overall pick is as low as 4 points and the 2nd overall is 2 points, that atleast gives those teams something to work with for the next season. It's not about rewarding them for a bad season, nor is it about how much Cannon gets "paid", what it's about is giving the teams that are nearly always at the bottom of the standings some help so that they can get better and it's not always the same folks making the playoffs every season and creating some diversity within the ranks of ManMMA... You obviously don't want that though, seeing as how you're one of those top teams that just cruise along at the top of the standings every season and can't stand the idea of being knocked off. I mean, is that it? Cuz it really seems like it by the way you claim you don't care but turn around and are passively objecting to any change at all then attempting to deflect to other issues that have no bearing on what we're discussing. With the crappy new men's cap combined with how low the women's cap is already, it really does make the point economy less of an issue than it was before in terms of upgrading because we are now so restricted with the current caps that, depending on what types of fighters you have, that opting to hand out an extra point or two for the top two picks in the draft really shouldn't be much of a stretch. It boosts the value of those picks, which they really should be of a higher value than they are anyways, and allows the bottom teams a bit more wiggle room in terms of trading, which we are trying to encourage too, to an extent, so that the parity in league, that we're now just starting see, keeps progressing forward and doesn't stall and stagnate again. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 16, 2015 14:10:40 GMT -5
You still keep saying we need help for the bottom 2 teams. But the bottom 2 teams this year had a bad year. The bottom 2 teams this year were the top 2 teams last year. That is diversity already. If we had an Edmonton Oilers situation here, I would be all over this with ways to try to help the team. But we don't have that. And even when we do, on TOP of the draft, we have teams willing to charity GOOD fighters to help out. Bullies offered to help out teams without A-fighters as soon as the letter grades were posted, and I have been shopping 2 top fighters for 2 weeks now (no one is interested). You can choose to want to get better (i.e. accept charity, or PM me offers for the elite fighters I am trading), or you can work on what you have and develop your own teams. I'm not trying to single you out here, xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, but it's hard for me to agree the bottom team needs additional help when he has 2 #1 contenders on his team who will likely be favourites moving into their title fights this season. When you look across the league, the GP teams do not look like the best teams. For example, if xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club fought @byronthammer in the GP, PHX probably would have swept that series. Even with D'Alelio hurt. That is not a team that needs additional help. Byron might be, but even then, he's been working on his crew and brought his projects up well. Bas is damn good now. Again, for me it's about not seeing a pattern that we need to break. ------------------- And once again, you haven;t said anything about the FiD freeze suggestion. That would give legitimately strugging teams (whcih I still do not believe we have) a chance to not have to worry about their low-end fighters for a season and get the rest of their team back on track. I would think xx - Team GAP could relate to how helpful this could be, since he has been working on projects while balancing title contenders for about 2 seasons now. The ability to not have to worry about your projects for a season should be priceless.
AND THEN, if we added Byron's suggestion to that, the idea that you could TRADE that immunity, that could bring about points for people not interested in the FiD Immunity.
I don't think there is a problem with diversity right now, but if there is I think this provides a lot more help than a few points to bandage the problem. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 16, 2015 15:08:13 GMT -5
I stopped reading when the massive black letters came out of the shadows and scared me.
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puh-lease... lol You too pal... you too.
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!