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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 18, 2015 5:48:17 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 18, 2015 9:15:09 GMT -5
Hmmm... while I kind of agree that the woman should've been arrested for calling 9-1-1 and calling police to a non-emergency like that, acting as the cop did is completely unacceptable especially when you consider that they did respond to the call. The mother's intentions were good, but you shouldn't be calling 9-1-1 for that type of crap lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 18, 2015 10:51:30 GMT -5
...Wow.
Harsh lesson in the real world of racism and law enforcement for those kids. They at least now know what it means to be black and have the police interact with you in the United States of America....the Land of the Free....
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Mar 19, 2015 10:23:49 GMT -5
Well the mom wanted the kids to learn a lesson.. Which they did. You call 911 for a non-emergency reason and this is what will happen to you. Racism part is just unacceptable though. The mom should have been smart enough to call the non-emergency number.. And the 911 operator should have told her off for calling 911 frivolously. No arrest was needed, child services did not need to be involved. Dumb. This entire situation is dumb.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 19, 2015 11:05:09 GMT -5
If you live in a low-income world of crime, drugs, violence, etc, doing anything you can to keep children away from that world IS an emergency. If you can get a kid to not steal ever again because he had the cops called on him when he was 9 in a not-massive emergency, you can potentially save the kids life in 10 years time. The socio-economic hardships in climates with such extreme racism in ghettoized locations is a cycle, and if you can break it, by any means necessary, that is of the utmost importance. Otherwise you end up burying your kid on their 20th birthday as a result of gang violence.
FURTHERMORE, assuming that is the case here, it's just as important to instill a trust among youth, especially black youth, in the police force. That's something we whiteys tend to take for granted, but if you can teach a young kid to trust the police (if your police are fucking trustworthy, here they were not), that is just as valuable. Respect for, rather then fear of, law enforcement also good long-term learning and development.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Mar 20, 2015 7:53:03 GMT -5
But... Police need to be up standing people and actually want to help and do the right thing.... Instead of being a racist bigot who is corrupt. Course I feel some of these "bad cops" need to be arrested or something for wasting the courts time, and for doing the clearly wrong thing. Mistrust of the public is not good.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 20, 2015 14:08:03 GMT -5
Gaining the public's mistrust, putting the entire system in disrepute, being actively abusive to society, and totally abusing your power as an authority figure. They create huge social and political problems, and they are supposed to be who the public turn to to feel safe. They should be prosecuted very aggressively.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 20, 2015 15:26:20 GMT -5
Gaining the public's mistrust, putting the entire system in disrepute, being actively abusive to society, and totally abusing your power as an authority figure. They create huge social and political problems, and they are supposed to be who the public turn to to feel safe. They should be prosecuted very aggressively. Corrupt cops like that should be prosecuted... that's not what I was saying... but I did grow up in a "law enforcement" household being my Dad is RCMP... Criminal charges or child neglegance shouldn't have been brought against the mother... a misdemeanor for calling in a false emergency would've been apt, if the cop was that belligerent and that biggotted cuz it was a "black mother" in his eyes, but what he did end up doing was inexcusable... that's just bullshit.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 20, 2015 15:35:49 GMT -5
Exactly. I guess the whole "gist" of everything I keep saying here is that it's a shame because there are such HUGE long-term, far-reaching consequences to police corruption and racism. Like, it creates fucking crime! And it makes every decent cop (cause there are plenty out there!) look bad too. I bet most cops would love to have their way with these arses too. It ain't just generations of civilians they are ruining.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 20, 2015 16:15:45 GMT -5
Exactly. I guess the whole "gist" of everything I keep saying here is that it's a shame because there are such HUGE long-term, far-reaching consequences to police corruption and racism. Like, it creates fucking crime! And it makes every decent cop (cause there are plenty out there!) look bad too. I bet most cops would love to have their way with these arses too. It ain't just generations of civilians they are ruining. Hey.. I grew up in a cop house and I'm not a big cop fan... understandably... I was actually interrogated by my own father cuz I had one friend that was a drug dealer... lol but I do understand things other civilians don't because of it... and I'm also from Alberta... if you're a racist, good for you {sarcasm} there's smarter ways as a law enforcement officer in our current society than be a blatant retard and throw the book at a "black mother" trying to educate her "black kid" to do the right thing... Sorry... I grew up with this shit with the natives being the blacks... I could give two shits about your beliefs about race or religion, but when the biggots are being THIS STUPID, they deserve what they get...don't matter what race you are or against... this would my definition of a retard... cuz folks with mental disabilities have more brains than this idiot cop.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 20, 2015 17:36:39 GMT -5
and they wonder why people be killin cops now. but honestly what dumbass calls the police on her kid for 10 bucks??? she kinda had it comin to be honest.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 20, 2015 21:33:03 GMT -5
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 21, 2015 5:14:42 GMT -5
and they wonder why people be killin cops now. but honestly what dumbass calls the police on her kid for 10 bucks??? she kinda had it comin to be honest. ...just. Plain. Wow. I would think as an openly gay man who has almost certainly faced discrimination in his life, you would pretty much never use words like "had it comin".
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 22, 2015 17:52:49 GMT -5
and they wonder why people be killin cops now. but honestly what dumbass calls the police on her kid for 10 bucks??? she kinda had it comin to be honest. ...just. Plain. Wow. I would think as an openly gay man who has almost certainly faced discrimination in his life, you would pretty much never use words like "had it comin". i didn choose to be a gay man she chose to call the cops on her kid she had a beating comin. you call cops for no reason they have the right to call you a n***a and treat you like one.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 23, 2015 8:50:23 GMT -5
Why is everyone saying that she's in the wrong for calling the police? She had to have explained the situation and requested someone come to do the stunt in a sort of mild version of "scared straight."
I've talked to at least ten people about this and four of them said they had done the same thing for their kids, that a cop showed up and had a stern chat with them and one quoted the cop saying:
"I'd rather be here having this conversation now than to spend a lot of time and resources chasing him/her down later on."
Which is exactly the point. Two squad cars showed up, 3 cops were having a good time with it and trying to teach the CHILDREDN, FUCKING CHILDREN a long-term lesson and then one cunt fucked it all up. I see no blame against her, unless the phone call was a blatant lie that warranted two squad cars.
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