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Post by The Sandmen on Dec 20, 2015 4:12:31 GMT -5
We'll start with a question - Do you think having your fighters fight only 3, maybe 4 times a season is a problem?
When looking at the season-ending stats last season, larger teams had, obviously, many more fights - a range of up to 90 fights and as low as 38.
The league is growing (a little bit, but it's still growing) and I'm not positive everyone will get 4 this upcoming season. I am always on the look-out for new members, and right now if a new member joined we'd be looking at 2-3 fights a season per fighter, rather than 4.
But mostly, I'm interested in my initial question. Primarily the smaller teams, where it's more likely you will check in on a card and have no one fighting then a larger team that it's almost impossible to build a card without including.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 11:05:29 GMT -5
It makes more sense to me, personally, that should a new member arrive, and given the amount of fights allotted to each team, that we should either expect a decrease, OR that there should be a maximum roster total applied to the league, and when we gain new members, we all drop a fighter, that automatically becomes said new member's team, and if he quits or drops an inherited fighter to free agency for someone else, that fighter can only be re-picked up at the draft, with the standings weighted as we have done.
That, to me, makes the most sense. It would also generate the 3-4 fights we'd want and expect because we'd all be at a comfortable total fighter amount.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 20, 2015 13:04:28 GMT -5
I don't see it as a problem. I mean it doesn't change the dynamic of champions fighting more or, if you win, you fight more. I think Barboza was the only fighter this season that had only 2 fights, so if we're at 2-3 or 3-4, doesn't make a whole lot of difference really.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Dec 20, 2015 15:09:51 GMT -5
I don't see it as a problem. I mean it doesn't change the dynamic of champions fighting more or, if you win, you fight more. I think Barboza was the only fighter this season that had only 2 fights, so if we're at 2-3 or 3-4, doesn't make a whole lot of difference really. You don't see it as a problem because you have a shit ton of fights per season while people like Bron and myself get screwed by it |
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Post by The Sandmen on Dec 20, 2015 16:07:55 GMT -5
It makes more sense to me, personally, that should a new member arrive, and given the amount of fights allotted to each team, that we should either expect a decrease, OR that there should be a maximum roster total applied to the league, and when we gain new members, we all drop a fighter, I don't think the "we all drop a fighter" is fair, since several teams only have 11 fighters to begin with, whereas others have 26. Just wanted to toss that tidbit out there, but I'm not really focussing on the new member part that much right now. Mostly just looking at the very small increases like this seasons draft. Having a range in team size of 11 to 26 has a definite impact on how often your fighters are on a card, so that's the part I'm really interested in mostly. How do you feel about that part? Is 2-3 fights per fighter (so 22-33 fights per season for the lower-staffed teams) too few? |
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Post by Ferocity on Dec 20, 2015 17:45:33 GMT -5
I'm good with it. I purposely have a small team, so I accept that my team will fight less- I could easily increase my team numbers if I had a apoblem with it.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 18:27:50 GMT -5
i guess what my problem is, is that because kruze and basically no one else, has a humongous fucking roster, my team gets to fight less. i think its kind of unfair that he has an entire league on his team, and we're all competing for the scraps in most of the cases. so basically, if kruze didnt have 2 fucking full teams, we'd all get a chance to see our fighters fight as often as he gets fights in total.
its like hes an only child, and he gets all the fucking candy, and we're tossed the wrappers and a few fucking tootsie rolls, and no one fucking likes tootsie rolls god dammit.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 18:35:54 GMT -5
just looked at the standings...
bullies - 10
cannon - 14 - and he hardly fucking pays attention to his team, hence the rua situation.
bulldozers - 12 - hardly says a word anymore
ferocity - 11 - actually contributes suggestions that successfully put the site forward.
byron - 14 - seems to only be here to fight kruze, and vice versa.
phoenix - 25... twenty fucking five. thats bullies and cannon put together, and then he bitches that he fighters suck, and that he doesnt win shit, and he nearly won the fucking grand prix after years of bullshit. two full fucking teams. so he gets twice the amount of fights as anyone else.
gap - 16 - when's the last time he ever even said anything here? like, anything worthwhile reading? ever?
ducks - 10 - just like bullies, one fewer than ferocity.
rocketman - 12 - same as bulldozers, one more than ferocity, but in the bottom end, and despite finishing high he gave all his good fighters away over time to all of us.
sandman - 17 - pretty soon to be phx part 2, you guys are hoarders ffs.
underdogs - 12
west coast - 8. 8 fucking fighters.
so the appropriate averages seems to be around 10-12 fighters. and we've got problems on how many fights are going around?
No. The problem we have is that we have a few GMs here who are hoarders and are literally taking away enjoyability from others by watering down the league with over-sized rosters.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Dec 20, 2015 19:41:30 GMT -5
well "CRY BABY QUACKS" you have option at end of every season too draft people try it and then stop crying..
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 20:03:08 GMT -5
why would i add more fighters? it just adds to the fucking problem. learn to read.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 20, 2015 21:08:44 GMT -5
Everyone has the same opportunity to have more fighters... I've also been willing to trade some of my fighters, but no one seems to think they're worth anything, let alone even close to what they're worth or then there's Byron who thinks I'll just give them away. lol I took on a larger roster for various different reasons: 1) because of our previous PPP system and folks complaining that I made too many points 2) I have/had a lot of what are considered "project fighters" and I still wanted to atleast compete, 3) when I started growing my roster, we'd lost quite a few teams and I was helping elevate the league numbers, which a couple of times I was asked to do by Sandman because I didn't care how many fighters I had on my team as long as it didn't go too far over 25, which it never has... and 4) a lot of the fighters I have my team no one seems to want anyways, but never once was it to get more fights.
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Dec 20, 2015 21:35:17 GMT -5
Nah , i gotta agree with ducks here. He's on point with his argument.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 20, 2015 21:37:22 GMT -5
Nah , i gotta agree with ducks here. He's on point with his argument. Not really when it comes down to the point that I'm picking up the slack for teams like yours that are only carrying 3 women total and they're all BWs. |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 23:09:04 GMT -5
so, it's okay that you have 25 fighters because you have an entire division? the fuck?
more fighters = more fights for you and less for everyone else, you selfish bastard.
teams with lower, respectable fight teams win more, kruze gets angry at the simulation program.
kruze catches up and now gets all the fighters and more fights.
basically, this is what it should be:
everyone in the site that has less than 16 fighters get to have their 3-4 fights per fighter per season.
people OVER that amount should expect that their fighters fight less because there aren't enough fights to go around to members on their team.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 20, 2015 23:13:27 GMT -5
instead of focussing on a per fighter ratio, it should be per team.
so if there's like 18 fights per card, times 20 cards, that's 360 fights.
then, you have 12 teams = 30 fights per team.
If you have 25 fighters, expect that you're getting 1 fight per fighter per season, then 5 extra fights.
If you have 10 fighters, you get 3 fights per fighter per season.
The only thing excluded from this is superfights, championships, and tournaments.
I think THAT is the most fair way to do it. No one gets jipped because one person wants a massive fucking roster.
You want that many fighters? You deal with the shared result of having that many fighters.
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