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Post by The Sandmen on Sept 12, 2016 23:20:41 GMT -5
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CM Punk
Sept 12, 2016 23:49:37 GMT -5
Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Sept 12, 2016 23:49:37 GMT -5
if i wasnt allowed to draft bam bam bigelo no one gets punk
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CM Punk
Sept 13, 2016 1:01:09 GMT -5
Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2016 1:01:09 GMT -5
As for creating Punk, you create him at the ManMMA minimum, of course, but you give him good wrestling & grappling skills to start off with because that is what he's good at. He's a wrestler. Based on what? 1) My mimimums are based on the absolute minimum level of skill I think a professional MMA fighter needs to have in order to compete in MMA. Punk showed less than that. For Punk, he would have a lower base level, since guys like Sage Northcutt would be closer to the "create him at the ManMMA minimum", and Punk is not even close to the same level as Sage. 2) What makes you think he is a good wrestler? WWE is not combat wrestling - it's performance art. Does that mean we should bring Sylvester Stallone into the league and make him a maxed out boxer? Come on now... 1) Then you're an asshole lol We all knew it... Thanks for confirming it.  2) Ummm... I'm sorry... Tank Abbott... Dan Severn... Ken Shamrock... Dan Puder... Brock LESNAR... Phil Brooks... all crossovers. Performance art, yes... but you're really stretching trying to pull Stallone into this. lol But I'm the idiot?  ...ok, whatever you say... NOT! But Justin... who are you, really, to decide who's "good enough to be here" or not? You're just an armchair GM/fan like the rest of us... you're no MMA guru. lol Wrong. I'm the guy who came up with the concept. I'm EXACTLY the guy to decide who is good enough to be here and who isn't. Sometimes, though, like now, I like hearing what people have to say before making a final decision. Overall, as you know, this site is not, nor has it ever been, about WWE guys. The site is about MMA legends. Punk is not an MMA legend. No, actually... you're not. You maybe the admin of this site, but you're not better than anyone else around here. And it's that thinking, by you, that has us in this shit we're in right now. You WANT Legends in ManMMA... Not everyone is Legendary...And not everyone thinks like you...How many actual 'Legends' do we have as Champions now? 2? No one said this site was about WWE guys, but you're a supreme dickhead if you disallow pro MMA fighters in your league cuz YOU don't like them... Well boo-fucking-hoo... Do you think I like seeing a Murphy here, let alone as champion? NO! lol But shit happens. Suck it up buttercup... This site is about "Legends"? ...No it's not. And you have to accept that, cuz, otherwise, we wouldn't have a draft every season, drafting new fighters. Period. What's hilarious about all of this is that you've developed guys like Askren & Aoki, neither "Legends", but that's perfectly ok? ...Really? |
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CM Punk
Sept 13, 2016 1:35:02 GMT -5
Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Sept 13, 2016 1:35:02 GMT -5
Based on what? 1) My mimimums are based on the absolute minimum level of skill I think a professional MMA fighter needs to have in order to compete in MMA. Punk showed less than that. For Punk, he would have a lower base level, since guys like Sage Northcutt would be closer to the "create him at the ManMMA minimum", and Punk is not even close to the same level as Sage. 2) What makes you think he is a good wrestler? WWE is not combat wrestling - it's performance art. Does that mean we should bring Sylvester Stallone into the league and make him a maxed out boxer? Come on now... 1) Then you're an asshole lol We all knew it... Thanks for confirming it. 2) Ummm... I'm sorry... Tank Abbott... Dan Severn... Ken Shamrock... Dan Puder... Brock LESNAR... Phil Brooks... all crossovers. Performance art, yes... but you're really stretching trying to pull Stallone into this. lol But I'm the idiot? ...ok, whatever you say... NOT! Wrong. I'm the guy who came up with the concept. I'm EXACTLY the guy to decide who is good enough to be here and who isn't. Sometimes, though, like now, I like hearing what people have to say before making a final decision. Overall, as you know, this site is not, nor has it ever been, about WWE guys. The site is about MMA legends. Punk is not an MMA legend. No, actually... you're not. You maybe the admin of this site, but you're not better than anyone else around here. And it's that thinking, by you, that has us in this shit we're in right now. You WANT Legends in ManMMA... Not everyone is Legendary...And not everyone thinks like you...How many actual 'Legends' do we have as Champions now? 2? No one said this site was about WWE guys, but you're a supreme dickhead if you disallow pro MMA fighters in your league cuz YOU don't like them... Well boo-fucking-hoo... Do you think I like seeing a Murphy here, let alone as champion? NO! lol But shit happens. Suck it up buttercup... This site is about "Legends"? ...No it's not. And you have to accept that, cuz, otherwise, we wouldn't have a draft every season, drafting new fighters. Period. thier is no legends in mma period.. its 20 years old legends are guys like anderson silva who fights now n hasnt won in 4 years and destroyed his legacy.. when i think legend i think ali , rocky marciano who are like from 50+| years ago ufc has what 5 hall of famers boxing has its own hall of fame outside the actual promotions |
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CM Punk
Sept 13, 2016 2:17:20 GMT -5
Post by The Sandmen on Sept 13, 2016 2:17:20 GMT -5
2) Ummm... I'm sorry... Tank Abbott... Dan Severn... Ken Shamrock... Dan Puder... Brock LESNAR... Phil Brooks... all crossovers. Performance art, yes... but you're really stretching trying to pull Stallone into this. lol But I'm the idiot? ...ok, whatever you say... NOT! LOL and you talk like you know MMA? Are you kidding me? With the exception of Brock (who was a legit NCAA college wrestler - a legit combat sport), everyone on that list did MMA before Wrestling. Hate to break it to you, bro, but WWE is not real fighting. It's actors, acting. It's like ballet. IT'S NOT MARTIAL ARTS! (So yes, if you want to start throwing the word "idiot" around, your list does support the point you are one when it comes to MMA, lol). No, actually... you're not. You maybe the admin of this site, but you're not better than anyone else around here. Just proved I'm better at MMA knowledge then you there, brah, LMAO! How many actual 'Legends' do we have as Champions now? 4 of 6. And the 2 that aren't, are because the women's divisions don't have the historical scope to know yet. I suspect JJ will be one when she retires down the road. Murphy, probably not. So, yeah, 5/6 ain't bad, lol. Thanks for proving that additional point for me though. This is getting fun, LOL! Do you think I like seeing a Murphy here, let alone as champion? If you think Lauren Murphy is comparable to CM Punk, you are absolutely slaughtering yourself here man, lol. I don;t even have to say anything at this point - you just dig your own grave of demonstrated MMA ignorance. I'm almost in tears with how funny this is getting. My LOLs are real. This site is about "Legends"? ...No it's not. And you have to accept that, cuz, otherwise, we wouldn't have a draft every season, drafting new fighters. Period You're suggesting we abolish the draft? I'll take that under advisement, actually, since the new picks get dumber and dumber each season. Thanks for your valuable input. Also...I don't "have to accept" anything. I run the place, and if something gets stupid, it can be changed. That's what 5 years of dedicated simming and site work gets you. Remember that time I offered that job to you and you said it was too hard for you? Regretting that decision yet? What's hilarious about all of this is that you've developed guys like Askren & Aoki, neither "Legends", but that's perfectly ok? ...Really? Again...you thinking Askren (Olympian, multi-organization champion) and Aoki (multi-organization champion with wins over several current and former UFC champions) are comparable to CM Punk.... Yeah, I have nothing here. You are just making such an ass out of yourself and shredding any respect one might have had for your MMA knowledge, it's absurd at this point. I'm kinda embarrassed for you, to be honest.  |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Sept 13, 2016 3:25:44 GMT -5
1 - I have too say sandmen justpwned the shit out of phx in alphabetical order
2 - more importantly you two shut the fuck up or this will turn into a back and forth sandmen phx bitch fest for 49345 pages. SANDMEN DON REPLY. PHX DONT REPLY you said your shit now shut up and let other people have their opinions ffs!!!
3 - I don usually care what people want to do more power to them but I with this I do care. im not a huge wwe wrestling fan and as cannon and sandmen said if we let punk in we let bam bam bigalow in then we let batista back in then we let fucking the undertaker in cause he has more training then punk did and its a stupid broken site. I didn't sign up for a wwe site I signed up for mma. punk is stupid. gall is stupid. fuck just make a rule someone needs like 10 pro wins or a ufc pride bellator one wsof strikeforce or wec champion to be in the league. one and done and no more 5 pages of phx and sandman at each others tits like newborn fuckin suckling pigs for crissake.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Sept 13, 2016 7:49:53 GMT -5
Murphy will always be a legend in my eyes.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Sept 13, 2016 21:20:01 GMT -5
Id take cm punk as a project fighter.... project fighters seem to be my jam. But i know i will likely not be able to get him cause someone else will grab him. Im ok with that. But i think sandmen is also wondering about whats important to us... fantasy vs being realistic.. cause if someone drafts cm punk then you know cm punk will be pumped up and become a champion and who wants to see a manmma champ who has a realistic record of 0-1
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CM Punk
Sept 13, 2016 21:20:44 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by xx - Team GAP on Sept 13, 2016 21:20:44 GMT -5
I still say... have patience and dont build him right away.
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CM Punk
Sept 13, 2016 21:54:37 GMT -5
Post by The Sandmen on Sept 13, 2016 21:54:37 GMT -5
But i think sandmen is also wondering about whats important to us... fantasy vs being realistic.. cause if someone drafts cm punk then you know cm punk will be pumped up and become a champion and who wants to see a manmma champ who has a realistic record of 0-1 Yes. And not only that, if CM Punk comes in, there is no reason we can't allow this messy list of pro wrestlers in: Bam Bam Bigelow Taka Michinoku Bart Gunn Kid Nash Sean O'Haire Jushin Liger Giant Silva Mitch Sylvester Terkay Rodney Mack "Dr. Death" Steve Williams Combine that with Lashley, Del Rio, Bautista, Lesnar - ManMMA becomes a really stupid faux-WWE site with awkward MMA fights. I fully get and understand most people here are casual MMAers (at best), and most are more into professional wrestling, but this still isn't a pro wrestling site. And I have no intentions of ever letting it become that. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Sept 16, 2016 13:00:41 GMT -5
Im not saying that we want it to be a wrestling site... im saying if you have had professional level fights then you should be allowed to fight on the site. It is a fantasy site.. you have already put in your a level b level c level fighters... so maybe have a d level? There are ways to work it so people can have the fighters they want but keeping them where they should be.
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CM Punk
Sept 16, 2016 17:53:32 GMT -5
Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 16, 2016 17:53:32 GMT -5
James. Toney.
Hell, a football player was on the Ultimate Fighter for the HW season, and he sucked, that whole season pretty much sucked, we should let all those guys in too. Make them do a battle royale, where the last one NOT thrown OVER the octagon gets to be drafted.
It is decided.
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CM Punk
Sept 16, 2016 18:30:05 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 16, 2016 18:30:05 GMT -5
James. Toney. Hell, a football player was on the Ultimate Fighter for the HW season, and he sucked, that whole season pretty much sucked, we should let all those guys in too. Make them do a battle royale, where the last one NOT thrown OVER the octagon gets to be drafted. It is decided. Yeah, because that's far from WWE lmao! |
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CM Punk
Sept 16, 2016 19:56:37 GMT -5
Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 16, 2016 19:56:37 GMT -5
As for creating Punk, you create him at the ManMMA minimum, of course, but you give him good wrestling & grappling skills to start off with because that is what he's good at. He's a wrestler. Based on what? 1) My mimimums are based on the absolute minimum level of skill I think a professional MMA fighter needs to have in order to compete in MMA. Punk showed less than that. For Punk, he would have a lower base level, since guys like Sage Northcutt would be closer to the "create him at the ManMMA minimum", and Punk is not even close to the same level as Sage. 2) What makes you think he is a good wrestler? WWE is not combat wrestling - it's performance art. Does that mean we should bring Sylvester Stallone into the league and make him a maxed out boxer? Come on now... 1) And what exactly do you base your "assessment" on Sage Nothcutt on exactly? ...Oh right. Your own bias opinion. lol Notrhcutt should be bit higher than a lower base lev3el. Give your head a shake. lol Especially after the way you created Rumble before he even did hardly anything in UFC.  2) Performance art or not, wrestling, in it's purest form, is recognized as athletics and but MMA as a under their umbrella, whether you like it or not. There is absolutely zero comparison to be made between Punk and Stallone. Stallone is literally an actor, not a fighter, in any shape or form, whereas Punk is... by definition. But Justin... who are you, really, to decide who's "good enough to be here" or not? You're just an armchair GM/fan like the rest of us... you're no MMA guru. lol Wrong. I'm the guy who came up with the concept. I'm EXACTLY the guy to decide who is good enough to be here and who isn't. Sometimes, though, like now, I like hearing what people have to say before making a final decision. Overall, as you know, this site is not, nor has it ever been, about WWE guys. The site is about MMA legends. Punk is not an MMA legend. That's the largest load of bullshit that you've ever spewed in your life on this site LMAO And there have been some massive loads...  First of all, you did not come up with the concept of MMA, nor are you any more knowlegdable about MMA than anyone else on this site. I couldn't care less if you started this site... or what you (originally) wanted the concept for this site to be. The very moment you allowed fighters that had "1 Pro MMA fight", YOU completely blew your own little concept of "Legends Only in ManMMA". So no, this site is NOT entirely about legends... and it hasn't been since about Seasons 4-6, which is nearly the site's entire existence. You don't like it... tough shit. You shouldn't have allowed guys like Batista & Lashley, etc. into the league in the first place. What are you going to do now? Take Lashley away from Dogs, or whoever has them now cuz "This site isn't about WWE guys." Fuck off... lol I don't care if a guy like Punk's in ManMMA or not... nor does anyone else but you, it would seem. Get over it already. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Sept 16, 2016 20:35:29 GMT -5
James. Toney. Hell, a football player was on the Ultimate Fighter for the HW season, and he sucked, that whole season pretty much sucked, we should let all those guys in too. Make them do a battle royale, where the last one NOT thrown OVER the octagon gets to be drafted. It is decided. Yeah, because that's far from WWE lmao! lol |
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...ok, whatever you say... NOT!
First of all, you did not come up with the concept of MMA, nor are you any more knowlegdable about MMA than anyone else on this site. I couldn't care less if you started this site... or what you (originally) wanted the concept for this site to be. The very moment you allowed fighters that had "1 Pro MMA fight", YOU completely blew your own little concept of "Legends Only in ManMMA". So no, this site is NOT entirely about legends... and it hasn't been since about Seasons 4-6, which is nearly the site's entire existence. You don't like it... tough shit. You shouldn't have allowed guys like Batista & Lashley, etc. into the league in the first place. What are you going to do now? Take Lashley away from Dogs, or whoever has them now cuz "This site isn't about WWE guys." Fuck off... lol I don't care if a guy like Punk's in ManMMA or not... nor does anyone else but you, it would seem. Get over it already.
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