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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 2:00:24 GMT -5
And judging by your response, even after we talked, your only inent is to fuck me over. Good luck.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 9, 2018 2:48:55 GMT -5
And judging by your response, even after we talked, your only inent is to fuck me over. Good luck. Last time I am going to say this. Please choose Option 1, 2, 3, or 4. Option 1 - Lose Brock (who will then be auctioned, via regular weighted auction, PHX would be allowed to participate) Option 2 - Keep Brock but give up 2 randomized fighters instead (could be literally anyone on the team except Brock). Option 3 - Keep Brock but give up a fighter of Phoenix's choosing who is currently ranked in the top 10 of their weight class Option 4 - Keep Brock but give up 4 points to every member of ManMMA (paid immediately, comes out of all points earned until paid off in full) If you don't choose an option by Thursday evening (EST), we'll go with option 1. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 6:35:16 GMT -5
Hopefully this gets resolved sooner than later so that I never have to read about this again.
Just the fact that there is a very obvious decision to be made here, and Kruze can't think of it, the same way I gave him a very obvious way to handle the auction, and Kruze shut it down... it's just baffling.
Barboza sat on free agency for like a week after the bid was void and he still didn't just do the swap.
Instead, we are here, doing this, again.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 10:33:41 GMT -5
when did anyone say you were getting brock back? did u just assume that would be the case because u sort of apologized? It's in black and white in Sandman's opening statement... Did you not read it? ...given the nature of Brock Lesnar being a huge name that I knew Kruze cared deeply about, I had planned on waiting to act on Lesnar until I had some sort of confirmation Kruze at least knew and understood what he had done wrong in the thread, at which time I planned on returning him to Phoenix Fight Club. At the time Brock's name was randomly drawn, I had no intentions whatsoever of removing him from Kruze's team, and assumed things would blow over before such a drastic measure was required. And even after the convo he and I had had yesterday, we're still on this bullying and humiliation trip of Kruze. Any choice I make up there blows my entire season to hell. I can either choose to rip my team apart even further than it already has been, which I shouldn't have to now since I fulfilled the requirements for Brock's return to Phoenix FC and realize I fucked up in that thread, OR I have to give everyone else virtually my entire allotment of points for the whole season. How is that fair when I've already been stripped of 2 really good fighters already? It's not. My penance has been paid as far as I'm concerned... And it's not likely that I'll ever get those fighters back, especially Anderson. Just as there is point where I take it too far, so to is there a point where this is being taken too far as well. Hopefully this gets resolved sooner than later so that I never have to read about this again. Just the fact that there is a very obvious decision to be made here, and Kruze can't think of it, the same way I gave him a very obvious way to handle the auction, and Kruze shut it down... it's just baffling. Barboza sat on free agency for like a week after the bid was void and he still didn't just do the swap. Instead, we are here, doing this, again. The reason I hadn't done the swap yet was because I was wanting this to be resolved first. There, not so baffling for you now is it? Now, as Bulldozers alluded to on the last page of this, 2 points per team is more than fair at this point, not 4, just to get this over and done with so we can all move on. It satisfies three-fold... You get your further penance for this BS, I get Brock back and a team's entire season isn't blown because of this stupidity either, which is ultimately the problem with the 4 points per team. And I'm choosing to give the points per team obviously, but if Sandman has even one decent bone in his entire body, it'll be the 2 points I'm compromising on, not 4 points. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 10:39:48 GMT -5
when did anyone say you were getting brock back? did u just assume that would be the case because u sort of apologized? It's in black and white in Sandman's opening statement... Did you not read it? ...given the nature of Brock Lesnar being a huge name that I knew Kruze cared deeply about, I had planned on waiting to act on Lesnar until I had some sort of confirmation Kruze at least knew and understood what he had done wrong in the thread, at which time I planned on returning him to Phoenix Fight Club. At the time Brock's name was randomly drawn, I had no intentions whatsoever of removing him from Kruze's team, and assumed things would blow over before such a drastic measure was required. And even after the convo he and I had had yesterday, we're still on this bullying and humiliation trip of Kruze. Any choice I make up there blows my entire season to hell. I can either choose to rip my team apart even further than it already has been, which I shouldn't have to now since I fulfilled the requirements for Brock's return to Phoenix FC and realize I fucked up in that thread, OR I have to give everyone else virtually my entire allotment of points for the whole season. How is that fair when I've already been stripped of 2 really good fighters already? It's not. My penance has been paid as far as I'm concerned... And it's not likely that I'll ever get those fighters back, especially Anderson. How amazing it is to see you just completely avoid continuing to read that SAME POST. Not even trying to find out where you screwed up in a THREAD, a SINGLE POST. Here's what was said next: However, in the 5 days since this incident occurred, not only has this member shown no understanding whatsoever for what he has done wrong, he has attempted to shift the blame to others, and has done nothing but blame and trash me privately to about half the site here. I have tried to work things out via a mediator (Thank you for your time and effort, GAP), but schedules have not made this possible at this point. So since no progress has come about in giving Kruze the benefit of the doubt, combined with time to cool off and reset, it's time to discuss what actually should become of Lesnar. Jesus. Just as there is point where I take it too far, so to is there a point where this is being taken too far as well. No. You bullying someone and them getting upset about it does not equal out. You're a dick. You're a bully. And now you're upset because you got punished for it. Man up! Hopefully this gets resolved sooner than later so that I never have to read about this again. Just the fact that there is a very obvious decision to be made here, and Kruze can't think of it, the same way I gave him a very obvious way to handle the auction, and Kruze shut it down... it's just baffling. Barboza sat on free agency for like a week after the bid was void and he still didn't just do the swap. Instead, we are here, doing this, again. The reason I hadn't done the swap yet was because I was wanting this to be resolved first. There, not so baffling for you now is it? Are you kidding me? Now, as Bulldozers alluded to on the last page of this, 2 points per team is more than fair at this point, not 4, just to get this over and done with so we can all move on. It satisfies three-fold... You get your further penance for this BS, I get Brock back and a team's entire season isn't blown because of this stupidity either, which is ultimately the problem with the 4 points per team. And I'm choosing to give the points per team obviously, but if Sandman has even one decent bone in his entire body, it'll be the 2 points I'm compromising on, not 4 points. You don't get to choose. You were a bully. You are getting punished. You were offered so many different ways to handle it, and you chose to adjust one of the ways in which you could be punished? No. I do not accept. I reject your offer. You don't get to compromise when you were the bully. You are lucky the site didn't request for your official termination. I am now doing that. I am deeply upset about how you've (not) handled this entire fiasco. I do not accept bullying on this site. I don't care how you felt you were treated. YOU were the bully. YOU. Only you. You bullied people, called people an insane amount of names, and then cried and tried to act like you're the victim. I do not care if you're not on the site anymore. If you quit, you've alleviated the bullying problem we have on ManMMA by removing yourself from the site. Either pick one of the options as laid out for you, or leave. It doesn't matter to me which one you pick. It matters to me that you think you can dictate what is fair, when other people didn't have a choice to be bullied by you. Justin couldn't decide not to be bullied. He was bullied. You can't decide how your punishment will be handed our, but you have been GRACIOUSLY offered the CHOICE of which punishment you can have, and that to me is shocking on its own. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 11:03:15 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying The Rocketmen is that the bullying and the ridicule continues unless I concede to BS and unfair treatment... Good to know. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 11:18:06 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying The Rocketmen is that the bullying and the ridicule continues unless I concede to BS and unfair treatment... Good to know. That is correct. Because you refusing to take ownership of YOUR BULLYING TACTICS is just more of the same. And you accusing the league of bullying you is fucking embarrassing. Grow up dude. The BS and UNFAIR TREAMENT you talk about is how you have been acting for two weeks now. But you don't understand because you lack empathy - the very thing most Bullies do not have. Good to know  |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 11:18:28 GMT -5
For the record, I'm still taking the points per team option. 4 per team is excessive, 2 per is what I feel is fair to end this. It's up to The Sandmen what happens now. Points is the choice. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 11:20:21 GMT -5
For the record, I'm still taking the points per team option. 4 per team is excessive, 2 per is what I feel is fair to end this. It's up to The Sandmen what happens now. Points is the choice. No. You don't get to change the terms of your accepted punishment. It's not up to The Sandmen it was up to you. The options are: Pick one of the punishments as laid out, no adjustments. Or quit. I don't care at this point. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 11:38:46 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying The Rocketmen is that the bullying and the ridicule continues unless I concede to BS and unfair treatment... Good to know. That is correct. Because you refusing to take ownership of YOUR BULLYING TACTICS is just more of the same. And you accusing the league of bullying you is fucking embarrassing. Grow up dude. The BS and UNFAIR TREAMENT you talk about is how you have been acting for two weeks now. But you don't understand because you lack empathy - the very thing most Bullies do not have. Good to know I think it's you that lacks the empathy here bud. I'm the only one that's put forth a fair compromise to end this shit, and all you're doing now is spouting off cuz I showed you that you were wrong, which you asked for reference to... Sorry you're butthurt about that now, but you asked. Don't ask if you don't want an answer. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 11:51:01 GMT -5
That is correct. Because you refusing to take ownership of YOUR BULLYING TACTICS is just more of the same. And you accusing the league of bullying you is fucking embarrassing. Grow up dude. The BS and UNFAIR TREAMENT you talk about is how you have been acting for two weeks now. But you don't understand because you lack empathy - the very thing most Bullies do not have. Good to know I think it's you that lacks the empathy here bud. I'm the only one that's put forth a fair compromise to end this shit, and all you're doing now is spouting off cuz I showed you that you were wrong, which you asked for reference to... Sorry you're butthurt about that now, but you asked. Don't ask if you don't want an answer. THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WHEN YOU BULLY SOMEONE THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WHEN YOU ARE RECEIVING A PUNISHMENT. NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO "COMPROMISE" WITH SOMEONE WHO THEY WERE ATTACKED BY. If you hit someone with your car, you don't get to tell them what you'll do for them. If you murder someone, and you are told you are getting 25 years, you don't get to say 15, because they were a dick to you. Secondly, how was I wrong? How in the fuck can you read anything I quoted above and then say I was wrong? What the hell dude? |
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Aug 9, 2018 11:55:06 GMT -5
Just go with the middle and do 3 ffs
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 9, 2018 11:56:07 GMT -5
Just go with the middle and do 3 ffs No. You're not helping. We are talking about a temper tantrum thrown by a 40 year old man who lost his mind on a site, accused cheating, bullied people, and then acted like he is the victim in all of this. He was repeatedly asked to stop. He didn't. That's bullying. He thinks he's being bullied because someone was offended at being bullied. How is that not clear? It's unacceptable. The punishment options were presented. He picks one and it's done. That's it. |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Aug 9, 2018 12:07:15 GMT -5
So basically what you're saying The Rocketmen is that the bullying and the ridicule continues unless I concede to BS and unfair treatment... Good to know. waiit u think u wer bullied?  wut |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 9, 2018 12:08:02 GMT -5
Why are you even still yapping then? The choice has been made, there was support for my compromise of 2pts instead of 4, it's up to Sandman now what to do. Simple. Done. But you're still going on and on cuz I showed you where Sandman himself said he was going to give Brock back without any more penalty.
If it's simply to this now, then 2pts per team is fair enough to get this over and done with; 4 is exessive. We'll see what happens.
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!
Jan 21, 2021 13:09:55 GMT -5
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!
Jan 21, 2021 13:09:55 GMT -5
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